Surfer Jay asks a really long question, but trust us, you need to read the whole thing:
How do I get my soon to be mother in law to obey my requests?
I asked her to not kiss my son on or near his mouth. I also asked her not to ever share food or drinks with him. An awful request to bestow upon a soon to be mother in law, I know.
She has herpes, and has given herpes to all four of her children. All four. From the time of her contracting it while a teenager, to thirty-five years of living later, she has retained a complete and utter disgraceful ignorance to the methods of transmitting this horrible viral disease. Through our conversation I learned that she did not know that herpes is contracted through skin to skin contact. She believes that her kids got herpes through the same method in which she has given them blue eyes and blonde hair. She believes that herpes lies dormant, even when her and her kid's blisters are oozing pus off their lips.
She was feeling vulnerable while I educated her, so accused me of being anal when it comes to educating myself about things. She told me, "Well you need to ask the pediatrician about this first." The madness of it all. So I told her the following, "(Lady) I will tell you something that nobody knows; your daughter gave me herpes. (Her face expressed horror) The same ones you gave her. I have had them for three years now. We were very careful, we didn't kiss within at least a week after her outbreaks subsiding, and yet I still got it. I have read the research on herpes. I have read every report I could find concerning the research done. I have read reports about all the various medications. I have been to two different doctors concerning this, and I have taken the medications. I have had blood work done. And I know all there is to know about herpes. I want to know about a disease that I have and that I could potentially pass on to my boy. Your daughter and I have discussed this matter. We are both on the same page. We both have agreed to never kiss him near his mouth or share food with him. This is very difficult to deal with, but we have to take preventative measures so he doesn't get it. As I am discussing this with you now, I will discuss it with everyone else later. I just wanted to talk to you first."
I went on to educate her in the ways of herpes. I told her everything I know, all of its deceiving and cunning ways of contraction and lying in wait. I was shaking. I was nervous. My voice was cracking. I told her I was nervous. I told her it was not easy talking to her about it. I had a large chopping knife in my hand the entire time I spoke to her as I chopped myself bell peppers, red onions, cucumbers, tomatoes and feta cheese for a Greek salad. I was using the knife on the wrong thing. It is a very harsh reality we exist in with herpes. to know that I can give my boy this disease is a horrible thing. The disease itself is not life threatening, and it's not something which necessarily requires daily medication, but it is a hurtful disease, after all.
The next day as we were leaving her house, she stopped me as I picked up the Boy locked up snuggly in his car seat. She bent down and kissed him. Everywhere. All over his face. Before she was done I tugged him away and walked off. She is a spiteful venomous being, capable of spreading disease. I shudder thinking about it.
So I ask, how do I get my soon to be mother in law to obey my requests?
Mr Lady:
My initial response was "Does she not watch South Park?" But this is no time for laughing, no matter how freaking funny that episode was.
What you have not said is where your wife stands on this. Are you a united front in the matter, or is this mostly you? My answer will not change based on that information, but your immediate well-being may. Because she may kick your ass if you follow my advice.
Dude, keep your fucking mother in law away from your child. Like, as far as.
Herpes isn't going to kill him, or you, or anyone. There are worse things your kid could catch than herpes. He'll learn to live with it if he catches it. He's probably going to catch it from you or the Mrs anyway. It's her grandson and she loves him and she'd never hurt him.
Did I miss any lame ass excuse for exposing your helpless child to an incurable disease?
My father beat us as kids. He beat us until the blood flowed, not just surfaced. He did much worse to my brother than to me, and I am still haunted by memories of it. When I became an adult, I had to make peace with it one way or the other, and with his sincere apology and attempts to be a better person, my brother and I both came to forgive him. We had a nice little relationship. Until I had kids. I watched the old Ed, the one I knew when I was a child, slowly resurface. It took a few years, a slew of insults flung in my direction, several backs of hands swung in my children's directions and a lot of tears for me to grow a pair and stand up to him. Eventually I did. The day he stood in front of my three year old and screamed at him, at the top of his lungs, with a bright red face because the child had the audacity to play with a toy sitting out on a table was the last straw.
I scooped both kids up, went home, and we haven't really seen him since.
No one is cruel to my children, I don't give a fuck who they are. No one will cause my child one second of unnecessary pain. Their little lives are hard enough, challenging enough, complicated enough. I take a hell of a lot of criticism for removing my kids grandfather from their lives, but I know what he's capable of and I don't want that for my kids, too. It's my job to protect them. From ANYONE who would hurt them.
You know what your mother in law is capable of. You know she does not care. You know she is selfish, and possibly a bit dim. Your job is to protect your son, not coddle his grandmother. If she came to your house and said she had lice, you'd kick her out. This is no different.
Ban her. Permanently. Foreverly. If you can't do that, ban her from any unsupervised contact. Keep yourself between your son and her at all times. He's busy trying to be a child; don't let her make it any harder on him than it already it.
BusyDad:
I'm a little bit buzzed right now. I had to be. When you submitted this question months ago I read it, jaw agape thinking "no, this can't be a real question." Mr Lady told me today she confirmed with you that it indeed is a real one. To properly write an answer to this requires me to be no-holds-barred. And the booze lets the leash go a little bit.
Let me take you through my thought process. I felt kind of bad for her when I read the first part. She seemed ignorant. I know ignorance is not an excuse when it comes to the law, but I personally cannot get too upset at those who are ignorant. That's just the way I'm wired. I'm ALL about intention. If you meant well, no matter what ends up happening, I find it hard to get fired up.
Next, I admired you. For you to keep a civil level of discourse (pretty much turning the other cheek) with the person who indirectly but knowingly gave you herpes by giving it to her daughter is nothing short of superhuman.
But then I got to the last part. The part where your dear Mother-in-Law stopped you - after you educated her, after you opened up about your own situation and pretty much forgave her, after you gave her the benefit of the doubt - and proceeded to intentionally infect YOUR child.
In good conscience I can only say one thing: kick her in the fucking teeth. Hard. Repeat.